torsdag 24. april 2008

Kongen og Douglas Coe

Det er bra at Dagbladet følger med på hvem kongen møter når han for andre gang får besøk av Douglas Coe i The Fellowship. Dette har falt Lars Rise tungt for brystet. Ingen tror selvsagt at Douglas Coe = Adolf Hitler = Kongen. Det er ikke det det handler om, men om at det Coe står for ikke er særlig gangbart i Norge.
Først og fremst: Det kunne like godt ha vært Jerry Falwell, Ted Haggard, Pat Robertson eller hvemsomhelst andre av disse folkene i sine velmaktsdager. Det ville tatt seg dårlig ut for Kongen uansett. Glem statskirkeepisoden, dette er drøye folk i en norsk kristen kontekst.
Men Coe's referanser til Hitler, Lenin og Mao er i en annen klasse. Selv Finn Jarle Sæle ville bare brukt disse navnene mot ateister. Alle kan se at trekløveret hadde enkelte kvaliteter som sikret dem makt, og at å verdsette dette ikke er ensbetydende med å støtte antisemitisme for eksempel. Men når ett av deres viktigste fellestrekk er deres særdeles grådige behov for makt, så er nettopp denne presiseringen drepende snarere enn formildende. Det hadde vært annerledes om Douglas Coe hadde hyllet de tre for deres vektlegging av design i politikken(stort mer positivt finner jeg ikke å si om noen av dem). Han valgte derimot å hylle dem for deres vilje til makt.
"The sermons are little surprise to writer Jeff Sharlet. He lived among Coe's followers six years ago, and came out troubled by their secrecy and rhetoric.
“We were being taught the leadership lessons of Hitler, Lenin and Mao. And I would say, ‘Isn’t there a problem with that?’ And they seemed perplexed by the question. Hitler’s genocide wasn’t really an issue for them. It was the strength that he emulated,” said Sharlet, who is a Contributing Editor at Rolling Stone and is an Associate Research Scholar at the NYU Center for Religion and Media in New York."

NBC/Deep Background, April 03, 2008

Og Coe gjorde det med en utmerket referanse til Jesus:

"I've seen pictures of the young men in the Red Guard…they would bring in this young man’s mother…he would take an axe and cut her head off. They have to put the purposes of the Red Guard ahead of father, mother, brother sister and their own life. That was a covenant, a pledge. That's what Jesus said." (NBC)

"Matteus 10:37 Den som elsker far eller mor mer enn meg, er meg ikke verd. Den som elsker sønn eller datter mer enn meg, er meg ikke verd."
Kunne ikke sagt det bedre selv! Bedre enn Coe altså, ikke Jesus.
Det hevdes at Hillary Clinton har hatt en del med Coe å gjøre - og hun vil ikke innrømme det:
"Asked about Coe’s influence on Hillary Clinton, people close to her told NBC News that she does not consider him one of her leading spiritual advisors. They added that Senator Clinton has never contributed to Coe’s group, is not a member of The Fellowship and has never heard the sermons obtained by NBC News. And, they said, Doug Coe is not Hillary Clinton’s minister."(NBC)
Si hva du vil om Hillary Clinton, men jeg tror ikke hun tar helt feil når hun prøver å late som om hun ikke har hatt noe med ham å gjøre. Godt mulig det er etter pålegg fra Coe. Kongen derimot, fører det opp i journaler.

Men det må da være bra at Kongen holder kontakt med folk som er i en organisasjon som ble startet av en utvandret nordmann og greier? Kanskje Coe bare er en norgesvenn? Abraham Vereide, som startet organisasjoen må ha vært litt av en mann.
Generelt dukker alle slags konspirasjonssider opp om man søker på f.eks. Vereide Hitler. Det er kanskje ikke så rart at konspirasjonssider dukker opp da hemmelighold og mektige menn var Vereides oppskrift på hvordan man best kunne forandre samfunnet ved udemokratiske midler. Og Jesus da, selvsagt. Strengt tatt er dette nærmere Hitler's skremmebilde om jødenes verdenskonspirasjon enn nazisme, men skummelt er det likevel. Det er uansett ingen vits å kaste bort tiden på konspirasjonsteoretikere, så la oss høre det fra en med doktorat i teologi og politisk filosofi:
Terry Lane: We’re going to run out of time soon,and we have to get on to what is really the sinister theme in your book, one part of which is the role played by right-wing think-tanks in Australia to try to purge the mainstream churches of their sentimental radicalism, and the other is the intrusion of the American evangelicals into the Australian political scene by a program of recruiting influential people. Now tell us about The Family and what it does.
Marion Maddox: The Family is one of the names of an organisation that has existed since the 1930s, but it has had various different titles. One is The Family, one is The Fellowship, one is International Christian Leadership, one is the International Council for Christian Leadership, and right at the beginning when it was just American, it was called the National Council for Christian Leadership. And I just for convenience went with The Family as the most recent name that it goes by. It was founded in the 1930s by a Norwegian actually, immigrant to America called Abraham Vereide, and he started it because he was worried that Seattle, where he lived at the time, was at risk of Communist takeover, and the solution was prayer groups meeting with the most powerful men, it was in those days, to hold up the nation in prayer, and so he started what became the Prayer Breakfast Movement in America, meetings of politicians, business leaders, industrialists, meeting outside of a church context to pray together, read the Bible, and discuss their lives in the context of what they’ve read. I’ve just been reading Abraham Vereide’s biography and it’s full of testimonies about the effectiveness of this, like the time when a labour union leader came to one of the breakfasts and immediately was moved to confess to all the industrialists present how much he’d been a thorn in their side, and that he was going to go away and not disrupt production any more. So Abraham Vereide, although he talked about it in politically neutral terms, plainly saw his
movement as having a political goal.
[...] But the worrying aspect of it, as a number of American journalists who’ve investigated The Family have demonstrated, is that The Family itself as an organisation, has aspirations which are quite undemocratic. So Geoffrey Charlotte, an American journalist who lived in a house run by The Family, a training house, for some time, he quoted leaders of the organisation saying things like, ‘Everything you need to know about leadership you can see in the cross: it’s vertical, not horizontal. We elect our leaders but Jesus elects his, and what it means to be a leader elected by Jesus is that you can do anything you like and nobody can judge you, because you’ve got divine endorsement’. So in other words, the sorts of checks and balances on leaders that we normally assume to be an essential part of the democratic process, The Family sees as an obstacle to divine rule, and if the law comes from God, rather than from humans, then why wouldn’t you want to just impose it in quite a direct way. And The Family, in its discussions of its own goals does have quite a specific commitment to putting what it regards as Christian values, which of course are not what many Christians would regard as Christian values, into place through the law, regardless really of whether it’s endorsed by the majority of the people."

Intervju med Dr Marion Maddox (doktorater i teologi og politisk filosofi) på "National Interest" Radio National i Australia. Hun er Senior Lecturer, Religious Studies, Victoria University, Wellington New Zealand.

Den tidligere nevnte Jeffrey Sharlet skriver dette:

"In 1946, Vereide, too, toured the world, traveling with letters of introduction from a half dozen senators and representatives, and from Paul G. Hoffman, the director of the Marshall Plan. He traveled also with a mandate from General John Hildring, assistant secretary of state, to oversee the creation of a list of good Germans of “the predictable type” (many of whom, Vereide believed, were being held for having “the faintest connection” with the Nazi
regime), who could be released from prison “to be used, according to their ability in the tremendous task of reconstruction.” Vereide met with Jewish survivors and listened to their stories, but he nevertheless considered ex-Nazis well suited for the demands of “strong” government, so long as they were willing to worship Christ as they had Hitler."

Jeffrey Sharlet, Harper's Magazine, March 2003

På tross av at "Hitler-beundrer" kanskje er å strekke Coes beundring for Hitler litt langt har Dagbladet sitt på det tørre her. Vel. Kongen må gjerne møte Tore Tvedt for min del, for jeg har allerede blitt republikaner.


Lesestoff:
Say Hillary, What About The Religious "Family" You Have Chosen To Be Part Of?
Christian Right: Who's the Man Behind the Curtain?
The Christian Mafia: Rule By Divine Right
Showing Faith in Discretion
Meet 'The Family'

1 kommentar:

Anonym sa...

Hei.
Jeg kom innom bloggen din ved en tilfeldighet. Jeg bodde i huset som Doug Coe og organinsasjonen hans driver en periode for noen år siden, på samme måte som Jeff Sharlett. Jeg ønsker bare å påpeke et par ting.

Jeff Sharlett er en løgner som har forvrengt fakta for å skape seg en journalistisk karriere. Mange nyhetsartikler om Doug Coe, the Cedars og the Fellowship bygger dessverre på hans og noen få andres feilaktige fremstillig av deres arbeid.

Jeg kan enkelt forklare at det de driver med i Washington og andre steder er å forsøke i få mennesker til å følge Jesus istedet for religioner. Jesus sier selv at det viktigste er å elske Gud og andre mennesker. Så det er bl.a. det de ønsker å formidle videre, og da ofte til mennesker med innflytelse på samfunnet. Jeg har aldri møtt andre mennesker med et så helhjertet ønske om å hjelpe fattige og lidende mennesker i samfunnet.

At mange mennesker som kommer innom der er kjente personligheter gjør at man ikke ønsker å ha presse til stede. Da kan disse folkene få mulighet til å slappe av og være seg selv.

Så om man er i mot at folk tror på Jesus og ønsker å formidle hans positive filosofi så kan man også være imot Doug Coe's arbeid. (Men jeg ville heller brukt energien min mot alle kristne menigheter som forkynner et forvrengt budskap av Jesu lære).

Å tro at dette er en mystisk organisasjon med en skjult agenda om å ta over verden osv, er helt feil. Men jeg skjønner at folk tenker slik basert på den informasjon man finner i media.